Pacific Ethanol, Inc. (PEIX)

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  • commenter
    Aug 28 01:24 PM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    Corn Ethanol=higher food prices, NO2, destruction of water tables(Nitrogen Fertilizers) and burning to death.

    Ethanol fires require specialty chemicals not found at 99% of Fire Departments. Don't remember where I read this.

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  • commenter
    Aug 28 06:51 AM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    GM 's sudden stewardship of the environment is simply a way to continue to make gas guzzlers thanks to E85 an extremely inefficient fuel. The CAFE standards call for all car companies to achieve an average MPG for all vehicles. I believe the most recent number is 27 MPG. Well if you make the biggest money off of 10 miles per gallon SUV's you would hate to say good bye to them wouldn't you?
    The CAFE standards has a loophole, that being that an E85 vehicle operating on E85 miles per gallon are ONLY figured against the actual amount of gasoline in the blend (15%) if you divide 100% fuel by 15% gasoline you get the multiplier to the mpg (666) therefore a gas guzzling 10 MPG SUV is given credit for 66.6 MPG. If you sell one SUV like this you can have 5 vehicles only achieving 20 MPG and this gas guzzling SUV and you average more than 27 MPG overall while not one of their vehicles really met the standard.
    GM is not the only one taking advantage of this free ride Ford and Chrysler are too. The big three are heading down the toilet and this is just their hands clinging to the rim.
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  • commenter
    Aug 28 05:12 AM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    Somewhere Ricardo is laughing his a** off. there are to many unforeseen variables with corn based ethanol. My biggest concern is how much larger this will make the deadzone grow. It will make New Orleans more vulnerable to huricanes, species will die out, fisherman will lose jobs, fertilizer will continue to increase in price which we will pay for everytime we go to the grocery store, there is less incentive for automakers to improve their product, it is not effecient, food riots will continue around the world, as a direct consequence of our desire to burn food, etc. Don't be fooled by the auto industry, ag industry, big oil, and all the other sectors that have a horse in this race. There is no magic bullet, but there is a good cocktail for this problem which includes solar, drilling, wind, nuclear, hydro and geothermal. Growing corn, as glamorous as it sounds, should play little or no role in the solution. Reply
  • commenter
    Aug 28 03:40 AM
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    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    Tim writes that "By the end of 2009 ethanol producers will be producing enough ethanol to replace 10% of the 140 million gallons of gasoline consumed in the U.S. each year." Given a generous thermal equivalent of 1 gallon of ethanol equalling 0.75 gallons of gasoline (the actual thermal-equivalent is more like 0.67), that would imply a rate of use (production plus imports) of 19 billion gallons per year by the end of 2009.

    You really believe that, Tim?
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  • commenter
    Aug 28 01:46 AM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    Ethanol made from corn is a poor idea overall. There is no excuse for it. Growing this much corn will do severe damage to the ecology of the Gulf of Mexico and creates a massive dead zone. The whole concept of improving the fuel instead of improving the engine is laughable. Corn based ethanol is way to keep consumers hooked on oil, not reduce dependance. Reply
  • commenter
    Aug 27 04:56 PM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    Tim - if we burn (consume) 140 million gallons of gasoline each year (your number), where's the 21 million barrels/d of crude going??

    If your number is correct at 140 million gallons/yr, and we use my biofuel injected burner with waste heat recovery capturing 90% of the energy and making it useful, then we need only 50 million gallons of biofuel per year.

    You say POET is already producing 1000 million (that's 1 billion) gallons of ethanol a year (your number) - where's all of it going? Some of your numbers are not adding up.

    However, whichever you arrive at, I only need 1/3 as many gallons with my no-moving-parts/no-tra... biofuel-injected-burner with waste heat-to-electric devices, an electric motor and a grass tank with fueling stations where they are today. Goodbye drillers and diggers. Come-on growers.
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  • commenter
    Aug 27 02:33 PM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    Chubbs, agree.. Brazil is having great success with sugar cane ethanol... if we had the humility to bury the hatchet we could normalize relations with Cuba and have more cheap sugar cane than we would ever need to power our vehicles until even better solutions were developed. But that would anger the "you know who" party, who would much prefer that we just keep pumping our money to their pals in all the world's friendly garden spots. Reply
  • commenter
    Aug 27 02:15 PM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    What? Jack34? Thot it was user246123. Above point is yours re. ALGAE! Reply
  • commenter
    Aug 27 02:11 PM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    user246162: Amen!

    Algae is a good grow method.

    So call it a GROW TANK instead of a GRASS TANK.
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  • commenter
    Aug 27 02:09 PM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    tylakewalker,
    Thanks for the botany toxonomy caviat, but it's completely irrelevant to the conversation (unless you were trying to inject humor, in that case: lol?). In case you were actually serious, mixed prarie grasses are not traded on the NYMEX, corn is, and that is one of MANY significant differences between the two. Take a look at the links I provided.
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  • commenter
    Aug 27 01:35 PM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    Most of what can be said has been. I estimate some 40 percent or more of the comments are crazy/unreasonable and I hesitate to associate with them but I would like to add the followinjg. I like my 7 passenger car and love to be on the road or drive 5 miles to pick up a DVD and want to see how this lifestyle can be continued.

    We should buy the Brazilian ethanol, they would buy the harvesting equipment, fertilizer, etc from us. Sugar cane ethanol returns 8 times the energy used to produce it, corn returns 2.8 times. (or so I've read recently). Globalization benefits everyone. We could grow more sugarcane in the south??

    Also not mentioned is Algae. There are quite a few pilot plants around the world growing algae, extracting oil and refining it into super clean deisel. Algae growth can double its volume in 24 hours. Genetic engineering, I'm sure, could increase the oil content. The residue after pressing can be used for animal feed.
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  • commenter
    Aug 27 01:12 PM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    Funny, no mention that blends above 10% are illegal unless you have an FFV. Otherwise, bye bye warranty.
    And the link to the ACE study is great. That piece of propaganda disguised as a "study" is hysterical. Has anyone actually read it?
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  • commenter
    Aug 27 01:06 PM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    Regarding concerns about feedstock limitations, I offer the following:

    www.ncga.com/news/notd...

    Numbers Show How Livestock Benefits From Ethanol (8-14-08)

    When the U.S. Department of Agriculture came out with corn production numbers Tuesday that were revised upward to a bountiful 12.3 billion bushels, two areas of corn demand also saw an increase – the amount projected for ethanol use was increased by 150 million bushels to 4.1 billion bushels, and the corn for livestock feed was boosted 100 million bushels to 5.3 billion.

    Although the USDA estimates that more corn will go into livestock feed than any other use, these figures leave out another important statistic, according the National Corn Growers Association – the amount of livestock feed that will be produced from the same corn that goes into (is used for) ethanol.

    In fact, if the USDA projection holds true, then there will be an additional equivalent of 1 billion bushels of livestock feed derived from the corn for ethanol, in the form of distiller grains (25.3 million metric tons), corn gluten feed (2.6 million metric tons) and corn gluten meal (500,000 metric tons).

    “Critics lament how much corn goes into ethanol but often ignore the coproducts and calculate too high a figure,” said NCGA President Ron Litterer. “Distillers grains offer a high-protein feed for livestock and help us meet all needs.”
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  • commenter
    Aug 27 12:56 PM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    You want to see where billions of your tax dollars go? Payments to all kinds of farmers to do NOTHING!!

    farm.ewg.org/farm/dp_a...
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  • commenter
    Aug 27 12:52 PM
    Ethanol: Our Answer to Reducing U.S. Dependence on Foreign Oil [view article]
    It's going to be interesting to see how the new Congress defines "Pay-Go" if NObama wins the election.

    Let's see, two trillion for SS and Medicare, another for free health care (Esp. for illegals - Oh, sorry, excuse me, undocumenteds), a half trillion each for Green energy and tax giveaways (Excuse me, stimulus) to people who didn't pay taxes in the first place, and another trillion or so before the next election just in case we missed buying anybody.

    That about sums it up. Maybe we can pay for it by just skipping the funding for our national defense entirely. The Russians and Chinese would certainly favor that, not to mention the terrorists (Sorry, enemy non-combatants).

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