American auto manufacturers are in a world of hurt. I am talking about a beating of epic proportions. Is this the result of a sluggish economy and awful fuel prices? Well, yes of course it is; but only to a point. Let's face it, American manufacturers have been in a free fall since May of 2000, long before our current fuel crisis. Although Chrysler has been at the forefront of design (how can you not love the '09 Challenger?) it just hasn't been able to keep one foot out of the grave. Having worked for Chrysler and GM (GM) during last 15 years I can tell you that Chrysler in particular is probably a walking corpse.
American companies are their own worst enemy and just plain guilty of "too little too late" tactics to rejuvenate their bottom lines. Yes, they have made great strides in initial design quality over the last 10 years but the area in which they continue to fail is long term mechanical reliability (oh the horror stories I could tell you) which is the most important criteria to their most important customer base; women, women, and women.
Women make up somewhere in the area of 65% of all car buying decisions. Reliability is everything to this category of buyer. Everything. Any husband who has gotten the call from his wife that her car has broken down on the highway while driving the kids to school will tell you: Hell will follow like a plague of ravenous locusts. In this day and age, public perception is that Toyota (TM) and Honda (HMC) are the most reliable vehicles. Even if it isn't true. That is correct. Not true.
Please do not mis-understand me here. There really is no particular manufacturer that has a superior product. Toyotas and Hondas break down with every bit as much frequency as Fords (F), GMs, and Chryslers. Every manufacturer from the elite down to the sub-compact tin box has its own quality issues. After all, how many parts manufacturers do you really think there are in the world? Ask any Honda technician about Accord transmission failure rates. Or a Toyota technician about truck ball joint issues or your beloved Camry's steering knock and engine stalling issue. It is all built with parts manufactured by the lowest bidder so we can buy our tin coffins for less money.
The difference in the stock price is what the public perceives is quality and what is does not. There is a reason why you will never see a new Mercedes behind a tow truck and it is not because they are God's gift to quality. It is because Mercedes mandates that all vehicles are to be towed to the dealer under a covered transport to avoid the unsavory sight of such a high class vehicle being dragged behind a tow truck. Which, by the way, is usually a GM or Ford. Oh the irony of politics. Perception my friends, it is all about perception over reality.
I am sure there will be many scathing comments from my readers about how their Hondas are the greatest cars in the world and that they have never had a problem in the one million miles they have been driven. They have had nothing but problems with their former American cars which is why they switched, and blah blah blah.
You are wrong wrong wrong. You are simply one of the lucky car owners that has had little issues. There are equal amounts of American car owners who have had nothing but trouble from their previous foreign cars and are thankful for their GMs or Fords. I have heard the same story form both foreign and domestic owners so please spare me any comments about this issue. They will fall on deaf ears.
Though, I will say that Chrysler takes the cake with poor quality during the last 20 years. The mini-van 604 transmission was a catastrophic failure, costing an average of $1500 to $2000 to repair, right around the time the warranty expired. If it failed after 50k miles you were out of luck with any factory assistance. The Intrepid / Concord 2.7L engines sludged up after 40k miles at a cost of $5000 with zero factory assistance of any kind. Was there a recall? No way. The other problem was that the re-sale value of a one year old Intrepid or Concord was 50% of the retail price. Now you have a repair bill that is 50% of the value of the car. The Dodge Neon head gasket blew if you breathed on it and truck differentials simply grew noisier with each mile.
With Ford, GM, and Chrysler, the reality has been mostly about poor decisions. They have always been the Johnny come lately in doing what is necessary to thrive in a current market. During the fuel crisis of the 1970's they kept churning out land yachts when the public was turning to more economical compacts from Toyota and Datsun. By the time they realized their mistake they were so far behind the curve that they made twice as much work for themselves. In the 80's and 90's when the foreign market really exploded because people started to realize that a car could go more than 100k miles without the transmission blowing up, American manufacturers thought it might be prudent to follow along. Again, they scrambled too late and lost.
But I digress.
So now we are in another fuel crisis. Replace the 70s land yachts with today's SUVs and we are still dancing under the same disco ball. Of course it is not all bad. The program that gave the Chevy Malibu new life was brilliant. Perform a part by part comparison to the Toyota Camry and manufacture it at a considerable cost savings to the consumer. I love it.
Unfortunately there are not enough good ideas to outweigh the bad. GM's lame attempt to make a Hybrid SUV is just tragic. I would love to meet the people responsible for designing a Hybrid vehicle that gets 20 MPG fuel economy so I could punch them in the mouth. The fact that it was ever allowed to be released is so ludicrous that I thought I was dreaming at first. They are scrambling and losing once again... and again.. and again. To GM's credit, it has really started to take care of its current customers with any issues they may have. It is to be congratulated for that. But it still is not enough to stabilize a dark and uncertain future that is currently ruled by Exxon (XOM) and BP (BP).
American manufacturers need to produce more cars like the up-coming Chevy Volt concept very soon because the likes of Nissan will be cranking out its own versions within the next two years. They need to drop this E-85 flex fuel nonsense and concentrate on electric now, but more importantly the potential of compressed air and solar power for the future because the next crisis after oil will be electric energy shortages. When that happens, how will we be expected to charge our electric vehicles cheaply? By Natural Gas generators? Are you starting to understand the proverbial urinating into the wind concept? It won't matter what the energy source will be because as long as we dictate that automobiles be fueled with energy reliant on natural resources, there will always be another fuel crisis down the road.
Final fact: With or without American auto makers, alternative energy vehicles will be here in a 100 foot tidal wave in five to seven years. Do not doubt it for a second.
American manufactures have this one rare opportunity to emerge the heroes of a new energy revolution as long as they can get out of their own way and give the masses what they want, when they want it. Which is right now.
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This article has 32 comments:
- Skynet91
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Jul 21 07:42 AM- Mister Jimmy
- 26 Comments
Jul 21 08:27 AM- ex GM emp
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Jul 21 09:09 AM- BKR
- 9 Comments
Jul 21 09:19 AM- Jeff B.
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Jul 21 09:35 AM- Rich S.
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Jul 21 10:31 AMI agree that a 20MPG hybrid sounds unimpressive, but considering that many of these behemoth SUVs are driven around town by soccer moms, it represents a 40% improvement over their normal city-cycle fuel economy. The key is to convince people that they really don't need a vehicle like that in the first place. If only minivans looked cooler...
- Gino Lattarulo
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Jul 21 11:14 AM- Joey
- 24 Comments
Jul 21 11:41 AM- fam62c
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Jul 21 11:54 AMThe Japs have, for the most part, stuck with what they are good at and sold large volumes of high quality small cars and trucks. They know that's what the rest of the world buys and they know that there is a large segment of the US market that buys these cars as well. They also know that fuel prices will always go up again eventually. I think that Toyota has learned a valuable lesson here by starting to get into the large pickup truck market that they had avoided in the past. They strayed from what had worked in the past and they got burned as gas prices went up. They are now converting a lot of the truck production capacity back to cars.
If you want to read a great book that talks about how things got this way read "The Reckoning" by David Halberstam. It was written in 1986 but it traces the roots of US and Japanese auto industries and compares the two. It's just as valid a book today as it was in 1986 and it's truly a great story filled with interesting characters. It essentially points out a fundamental difference in that the US auto industry got taken over by finance and accounting people after WW II (the Whiz Kids) while the Japanese auto industry management was more attuned to design, engineering, production and customer service interests.
- paulk8756
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Jul 21 12:41 PMSpeaking of which, I wonder why greater numbers of WOMEN don't post and comment here...? Although they own the majority of stocks, they must not make as many buying decisions as we think they do.
Nor in cars, either!
- paulk8756
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Jul 21 12:51 PMIf you were a woman being polled, you'd say you were in charge of the buying decisions. And if you were a man, and your wife and/or girlfriend was in earshot, you'd say the same thing, wouldn't you?
My former wife and present girlfriend don't know where to check the oil in a vehicle, much less make a sensible decision on which to buy or how to finance one.
I rest my case.
- User 229703
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Jul 21 01:20 PM- User 229703
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Jul 21 01:28 PMVehicle Type: 5-passenger SUV-type vehicle (EPA classification:
station wagon)
Buyer Demographics: Young married couples (30-35), median family
income $60,000, over 50% female buyers and/or decision makers.
Vehicle Type: 4-passenger, front-wheel drive, 2-door coupe
Buyer Demographics: The coupe is targeted for the unmarried buyer and
young couples without children. The median age is 32, with an annual
income of $42,000. Sixty percent of the buyers are expected to be
female, and 38 percent will be college graduates.
Coupe and Sedan Buyer Demographics
Median age: 18–24 Years
Median household income: $50,000
Purchaser (male/female): 35%/65%
Married: 25%
College graduates: 40%
Sedan:
Buyer Demographics:
Median age: 30—40 Years
Median household income: $35,000—$50,000
Purchaser (male/female): 35%/65%
Married: 55%
Children in household: 40%—60%
College graduates: 35%—50%
- paulk8756
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Jul 21 01:55 PM- coeus89
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Jul 21 02:00 PM- paulk8756
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Jul 21 02:01 PMP.S. I feel sorry for you guys who agree with these supposed car buying demographics!
- paulk8756
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Jul 21 02:05 PMNice post. I agree with your grandma... I wouldn't own a Toyota on a bet! The domestics DO have away to go, however, but at least they're REALLY responding to their wake up call this time.
- Ace2
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Jul 21 02:08 PM- Retriever5280
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Jul 21 02:42 PM- Joey
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Jul 21 03:32 PM- bmoore
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Jul 21 04:37 PMAs far as reliability of Asian cars versus domestic, there are peaks and valleys on both sides. The cars that are the most reliable are those who share the most common parts, Honda does this the best. An alternator for a 2006 Honda Accord fits the Civic, CRV, Element, Acura CSX & TSX and is used over a variety of model years. I think this is why Honda is the most reliable brand across all models according to Consumer Reports. Its also why Honda is one of the most desirable brands for Auto Recyclers aka salvage yards and car thieves.
GM has been known to have different parts even for its twin models and changes parts frequently year to year. Its amazing that a basic axiom, like build one good part and use it across the entire line still has not stuck in Detroit. Then again VW does the same thing as Honda and their quality is bottom of the barrel.
- Maximo
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Jul 21 06:08 PM- Calvin C.
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Jul 22 01:20 AM- BioInvestor
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Jul 24 12:11 PMI don't buy your argument that getting rid of women has had an adverse affect on sales. In fact, I don't believe what you wrote about GM firing women.
Finally, the problems at GM aren't related to gender, they're more related to fenders. GM doesn't make cars that people want to buy. It doesn't matter who is in management, on the board, on the production line, or in sales in market: GM doesn't have a product that people want to buy.
On July 21, Joey wrote:
Well written analysis by the author. Women do represent 65% of new car buying decisions yet GM's management is over 90% men. GM should have started to change its employee makeup to accomodate for targeting their new buyer to the industry - women (this should have occurred 20+ years ago). I remember in 2006, GM took its advertising contractors and fired and demoted almost every women in the advertising field and replaced them with men. GM's men wanted to work with male advertising executives. The result, GM's sales for the brands affected by the switch dropped by more than 40%. So why are these men who made this terrible business decision still there? Is this fair to GM stockholders, especially since so many women who own GM stock? If getting rid of women decreases sales, what would getting rid of the men and adding women to GM do for sales? Would GM finally see a positively changing sales track? Would GM's stock that dropped so much so quickly finally turn around because their target market is being taken care of and their needs met?
- BioInvestor
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Jul 24 12:13 PMYour comments don't reflect women, they reflect who you are and what you attract.
On July 21, paulk8756 wrote:
Let's see...
If you were a woman being polled, you'd say you were in charge of the buying decisions. And if you were a man, and your wife and/or girlfriend was in earshot, you'd say the same thing, wouldn't you?
My former wife and present girlfriend don't know where to check the oil in a vehicle, much less make a sensible decision on which to buy or how to finance one.
I rest my case.
- BioInvestor
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Jul 24 12:20 PMThe article also contains serious factual errors. The failure rates among different brands--and consumer preferences--are well documented. Companies like Honda and Toyota have consistently manufactured cars that perform better. You actually talk about the quality problems in US cars in your article; I don't see how you can conclude that there is no difference in quality among the different brands.
- Gino Lattarulo
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Jul 24 12:28 PM- Gino Lattarulo
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Jul 24 12:32 PM- Joey
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Jul 24 11:09 PM- BioInvestor
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Aug 01 05:38 PMAs for the discussion about people in women's dresses, what a minimalist argument to make. State something substantive; something meaningful; something relevant! Please. This is a site for investors.
On Jul 24 11:09 PM Joey wrote:
> BioInvester, women were fired. Check your records. It was several
> contractors in the advertising field across the country that were
> fired or demoted. The RDMMs made the recommendations. Also, if women
> do not make a difference, then why did you have the engineers at
> GM be forced to dress up in women's dresses to experience the Acadia
> from a woman's point of view?
- BioInvestor
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Aug 01 05:38 PMOn Jul 24 12:32 PM Gino Lattarulo wrote:
> Bio Investor, "Factual Documented Information" as released by the
> media is just that. I am giving you information based on 15 years
> of working inside these companies. Take from it what you do or do
> not wish to believe. In any case, I applaud your convictions.
- xbnbx
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Aug 12 10:15 AMElectrics will not survive the American market because most people have been spoiled with electric windows, dvd players, power steering, power this, power that. The cars of today have to be built like tanks because of the huge SUVs and overgrown pickup trucks with irresponsilble drivers smash into each other while on cell phones, eating their fast food and texting to each other.
Do you really need those huge tires and wheels? What a waste!
As was mentioned in the article, Too little, Too late. I have had both imports and domestics. I couldn't get rid of the domestic fast enough. Sure they feel good for the first year, but don't park in the sun or the paint peels, plastic starts crumbling, headliners come loose, etc, etc.
Also, why buy a car that uses only premium fuel? BMW should have have their heads examined for requiring premium in their cars. What good is a little Mini if it requires premium? Where's the economy?
Current technology may be limited in how far an electric car can run, but with gas prices as such, who is going to long distances in their gas hogs?
I'm glad that gas prices have shaken people, it's time that carmakers wake up to the fact that oil is running out. With the world population all wanting a piece of the oil pie, yes it is going to be a never ending chase to find the fuel that will satisfy everybody's needs. There will be no easy answer.
What I find interesting about the oil industry is that while it is raking in money hand over fist, it is not building itself up with a better infrastructure. It seems it knows it is going out of business and is just collecting the money for dispursal to its execs when the oil peaks and there is no more. Do you see more refineries? No! Are current ones being rebuilt? No! Why tear down the old store and remodel when you're scheduling a going "Out of Business" sale?
Oh well, it's not going change, so why rant...
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